May 5 2009

IIS7 ColdFusion and BlueDragon .NET

Posted by Mike Brunt at 3:56 PM
12 comments
- Categories: Web Servers | .NET | ColdFusion | JRun-J2EE

 

The original version of this posting got lost in a recent database crash so that sort of gives me an opportunity to revisit my thoughts, a few weeks on from the original post with some more thoughts.  

 

Recently I have been in email correspondence with Vince Bonfanti of New Atlanta  in particular about BlueDragon.NET and that really started as a result of 4 clients of ours who had varying degrees of different problems in getting IIS7 to work reliably, initially with ColdFusion 8, I blogged about that here.  In essence, I think a good number of those issues relate to weakness in the web server connector and I have felt it to be somewhat weak for some time now.  What concerns me in particular is that this is the most critical link that ColdFusion needs and depends on.  Vince revealed to me that New Atlanta have rewritten the web server connector for IIS in native .NET code from it's current C++ version used by other CFML vendors.  Here are a few good meaty blog posts about BlueDragon.NET, I like the fact that the Microsoft piece mentions nothing nor even hints at migrating people off CF to .NET...

Bill Staples, Manager IIS Development at Microsoft about BlueDragon.NET

A Comparison Of BlueDragon.NET and ColdFusion 8 .NET Capabilities

Running CFML Natively On .NET instead Of JavaEE

I think the way that IIS7 is architected certainly lends itself to BlueDragon.NET more than previous versions of IIS, the fact that New Atlanta now has integrated capabilities within the IIS7 admin tool is another point worthy of consideration.

 

 

Comments

Mike Brunt

Mike Brunt wrote on 05/06/09 7:05 AM

@Todd you make a good point and there is a reason Todd I had to re-write it (long story) and in doing so got lost in the thread somehow, I will change that right now, the original did include Railo and OPenBD. Thanks for taking the time to put me straight btw.
Bill Berzinskas

Bill Berzinskas wrote on 05/06/09 2:42 PM

i'll have to agree re: the connector. I've definately had much better success running CF strictly on top of Java and offloading "web server" activities to another box, either programmatically, or via a Reverse Proxy.
Mike Brunt

Mike Brunt wrote on 05/07/09 10:25 AM

@Bill yes those are good thoughts, Sean Corfield used a reverse proxy methodology when he was running CF for Macromedia web sites, if I am not mistaken.
Gary F

Gary F wrote on 07/26/09 4:39 PM

Hi Mike. Can you expand on the problems that CF8 + IIS7 gave your clients please? How did you go about fixing it, or was it unfixable?

I like BD.NET, it's a very cleverly engineered CFML engine, but what if we're upgrading a platform from 2003+IIS6 to 2008+IIS7 and there's no project requirement to move away from CF8 Ent (licenses bought and paid for)? Thanks.
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David wrote on 07/31/10 2:24 PM

Hey Mike,
Can you elaborate on the issues you had with a database crash? I'm surprised that a site like this wouldn't have steady back-ups to ensure you wouldn't lose your files. Do you guys have something set-up to regularly save it?
centurion

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I've definately had much better success running CF strictly on top of Java and offloading "web server" activities to another box, either programmatically, or via a Reverse Proxy.
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